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Updated Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:22 PM

Washington digest: Senate blocks gun bill



BY STEVE TETREAULT

STEPHENS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON -- The Senate voted last week to block a bill that would have expanded gun rights by allowing licensed owners of firearms to carry concealed weapons into other states.

Senators voted 58-39 to shelve an amendment by Sen. John Thune, R-S.D. While Thune won support from a majority, he needed 60 votes to prevail under a deal reached among senators.

The amendment would have required individual states to honor concealed weapons permits issued by other states even as the rules for carrying guns might vary from state to state.

All but two states, Wisconsin and Illinois, allow licensed gun owners to carry a hidden weapon. The amendment, strongly supported by the National Rifle Association, would have required the traveling gun owner to honor local laws that might bar hidden weapons in restaurants and other places.

Thune argued expanding the right to carry concealed guns would reduce crime. Thugs would think twice about committing a crime not knowing if their victim might be armed, he said.

The amendment "will allow law-abiding individuals to travel, without complication, throughout the 48 states that currently permit some form of conceal and carry," Thune said. "Law-abiding individuals have the right to self-defense."

Opponents argued the amendment would trample a state's right to determine who can legally carry guns within its borders.

Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., said while 12 states already allow gun owners from neighboring states to carry concealed weapons, 25 make the decision selectively and 11 do not allow visitors to carry hidden guns.

"The Thune amendment is a direct assault on those states," Durbin said. "Congress should not require one state's laws to trump another's."

Sens. John Cornyn and Kay Bailey Hutchison, both R-Texas, voted for the Thune amendment.

Sens. Tom Coburn and James Inhofe, both R-Okla., voted for the Thune amendment.

F-22 Jets discontinued

The Senate voted to discontinue production of the F-22 fighter jet, a victory for President Obama who had lobbied to discontinue the system that critics have said is not needed to fight modern wars.

Obama has said the program should be stopped after 187 of the warplanes have been delivered. He said he would veto a Senate defense bill if it continued production of the fighters.

The vote came on a motion to strip out $1.75 billion from the defense bill that would have bought seven additional F-22s. Obama prevailed, 58-40.

Cornyn and Hutchison voted to continue F-22 production Coburn voted to stop F-22 production while Inhofe voted to continue it.

The F-22 was advertised as the world's most advanced fighter that can deflect radar with Stealth technology and soar at supersonic speeds.

But critics including Defense Secretary Robert Gates have called it an unaffordable Cold War relic that is of little use in small wars and modern insurgencies. They point out the F-22 plays no role in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

Supporters said the United States may get caught short if it ever finds itself at war with a formidable nation like China.

They also said stopping F-22 production would further jolt the economy as the multi-billion dollar project has created jobs in virtually every state. Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said 25,000 direct jobs and 95,000 indirect jobs would be put at risk by the Senate vote.

The Senate vote was one step in a debate over the F-22 that is expected to continue later into the year.

House passes "pay as you go" budget bill

The House voted 265-166 for a bill that requires new tax cuts and certain spending to be offset by cost reductions or tax increases elsewhere in the budget.

Supporters said the "pay as you go" bill is key to impose discipline on Congress. It requires automatic spending cuts across the board if a year-end review shows that the cost of bills Congress has passed do not balance with revenues. Social Security payments, Medicaid and food stamps would be exempted.

Most Republicans voted against the bill, saying it had too many loopholes that would allow Congress to disguise new spending. They said it was weaker than a similar law that was in effect during the 1990s.

Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, voted for the pay-as-you-go bill. Rep. Dan Boren, D-Okla., voted for the bill. Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., voted against it.

Republicans offered an alternative that they said would put tighter caps on spending. But critics said it focused too much on cutting spending and not enough on raising taxes as a way to achieving a pay-as-you-go balance.

The Republican plan was defeated, 169-259. Hall voted for it. Cole and Boren voted against it.



Comments ... 6 found!

Quit recognizing their Driver's Licenses. : 7/27/2009
If Illinois would punish a Texan up for carrying concealed in Illinois with a CCW license issued in Texas, then Texas should punish Illinois residents driving in Texas with licenses issued in Illinois. A fishing license from Illinois is no good in Texas. Why should their driver's licenses be any good? Gun owners are tired of being treated like the bad guys. We respect the laws. We revere the constitution. What do we get in return? A bunch of liberal, criminal-huggers blaming us for kids in Chicago killing each other with guns that Chicago's gun bans have failed to keep out of Chicago. If it weren't so tragically ironic, it would be downright hilarious.

Al

Thoughtful Owner Misses Point : 7/27/2009
Thoughtful Owner, with all due respect, you are missing the point here. What you say about gun ownership may be somewhat correct, but, the issue here is the licensed right to carry (key word "licensed"). I am not sure what state you live in, but to say you can purchase with "barely any sort of identification" is not accurate. Just to buy a gun, you must submit a government issued photo ID, and then your information is called in and your background (no felonies, outstanding warrants, etc) is checked before the sale can be finalized. So to imply that most anyone can just walk into a store and buy a gun is very inaccurate. As far as buying one on the street, I am not counting that because you can buy anything on the street and NO law will prevent that so that's not even a topic of discussion. Now, as far as the real issue here, a license to carry, that requires a thorough background check and MANY people are declined. You must be squeaky clean to get a license in Texas and I assume other states are smiliar. You must have NO felonies or serious misdemeanors, no adverse mental history, owe NO back taxes, owe NO back child support (yes, that's right, if you are behind on child support you get NO license), no history of violence on record, no domestic violence or issues, no child custody issues, etc. In addition, you MUST have qualified training and MUST re-qualify every 5 years. So again, licensed gun owners are typically trained, squeaky clean citizens and should NOT be subject to more government control. These are NOT the people I am afraid of having a gun - these are the people that I PRAY have a gun when some cracked out thug off the street walks in to the store I am at and tries to rob the place and kill me and my family!! Let's put this in perspective.

Licensed Carrier

Too Many Guns : 7/27/2009
I'm sure that no one is trying to repeal the second amendment, however, limiting the numbers and types of guns is quite reasonable. When our forefathers framed the second amendment, they had absolutely no idea what "arms" would come to constitute in this day and age. The proliferation and caliber of guns means that anyone, without training, and with barely any sort of identification can obtain a weapon, leading to many incidents of irresponsible gun ownership. It is difficult to achieve balance on this issue, but it is something that needs to be done.

Thoughtful Owner

this week : 7/27/2009
Republicans offered an alternative that they said would put tighter caps on spending. But critics said it focused too much on cutting spending and not enough on raising taxes as a way to achieving a pay-as-you-go balance" I'd like to know who voted against this very sane and wise bill. I hope and pray that the health care bill is stopped. Its time for the insurance companies and come to the plate with a viable plan as well.

Stop Socialist

Good Job Thune! : 7/26/2009
At least there is someone in Washington who is trying to preserve our second amendment right to carry! It is so funny that democratic "leaders" claim this would be a "direct assault" on some states. Hahahaha!! Like any of them, including Obama, give a rat which state or people's rights that they "assault". PLEASE!!!!

Constitution Abider

Out Of Control : 7/26/2009
US Government is completely out of control now. They clearly do not care about the public's general safety or our 2nd Amendment rights (obviously). As Obama continues his wreckless spending and his wreckless cuts and removal of our constitutional rights, our country will only weaken. I only pray that the muslims that he so dearly loves do not invade us and take us over someday as we are becoming more and more of an easy target!

Worried Much
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