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Updated Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:28 PM
Commissioners react to jail plan
Editor's note: This is the second in a series of articles on recent developments in the debate over whether to build a new jail in Grayson County, where it should be built and whether it should be built and run by Grayson County or a private firm.
BY JERRIE WHITELY
HERALD DEMOCRAT
Last week, Grayson County Sheriff Keith Gary and County Judge Drue Bynum reacted in opposite directions to a call for the sheriff not to sign off on a private contract to build and operate a county jail. Other commissioners responded to questions about their position on whether to contract with another private company to send Grayson inmates to Fannin County.
The call for the sheriff to withhold his approval of the contract came from the Combined Law Enforcement Associations of Texas. The debate over private versus public operation of the jail began more than two years ago. Since that beginning, the sheriff and commissioners have said that the sheriff would have to approve any contract and would be charged constitutionally with the proper running of the jail. Asked his reaction to CLEAT's call Thursday, Bynum said it's not really up to the sheriff to approve the contract. He said if the Grayson County Commissioners Court approved the contract, the sheriff would "have to right to sue the commissioners court."
Gary said that he feels duty bound to ensure that his current employees are treated fairly. At least as important, Gary said, is to keep an adequate number of jail-related staff to ensure safety -- both of the inmates and of the public. Regardless of where most of the inmates are kept, the sheriff is still legally responsible to see that their transportation to and from court and their appearances in court are safely conducted, Gary said. He said county workers also have clerical duties to prepare prisoner packets for those found guilty. They would still have to book-in prisoners and have a contract with the federal government for 35 beds a day through 2011.
All four commissioners, the sheriff and the county judge discussed several variations of a plan to move some or most inmates to Fannin County's new privately run jail. The plans ranged from temporarily housing inmates there while the current jail is refurbished and expanded to housing all inmates in Fannin County except for those who needed to be in court the next day.
At least two of the four commissioners would have to agree with Bynum's notion to move prisoners to Fannin County. And that plan too might require the sheriff to be in agreement. All four commissioners were asked if they would be willing to approve such a measure. They were also asked about what they see as possible other solutions to the problem.
Each commissioner stressed that they don't want to see an impasse develop between the commissioners and the sheriff and they are confident that it won't. They also each said they do support using the private jail in Fannin County for some length of time while other solutions are sought.
Commissioner Gene Short is the longest serving member on the court and one who has said he is not seeking re-election. He said he hasn't made up his mind about the jail issue one way or the other yet. He said he might be in favor of transferring Grayson inmates to Fannin County for a brief time. That time would allow the county to remodel the one downtown or build on to it.
"I would not be in favor of it long term," Short said. "We can't afford that. The cost per inmate would be higher than what we are paying now," Short said.
Short said for the short term, inmates could be brought back into the county to go to court.
However, Short said he favors going forward with the proposed plan with Southwestern Correctional. But that is only possible, he said, with concessions from Sheriff Gary.
"In my opinion, if we go with Southwestern we have got to get that per diem down to $35 to $36 per day per inmate. The only way to do that is to allow (Southwestern) to go with market value for their jailers," Short said. That would mean a cut in pay for jail workers.
In their last jail-related meeting, commissioners and Southwestern seemed all but agreed on keeping jail workers' salaries at their current level. The stumbling point seemed to be the number of people Gary wanted to keep on his staff for court security; more than commissioners said is necessary.
Gary said he wants only essential staff, and most will be trained to do a number of jobs for efficiency.
Commissioner Johnny Waldrip, a former Texas Ranger and once Gary's second in command at the county jail, said he is baffled at Gary's opposition to the idea of a private jail.
"He was the one who changed my mind," Waldrip said, noting that he once opposed the private jail.
However, Waldrip said, that lawsuits have caused private jail operators to change their methods. Now he is confident that a private jail would not lead to problems for the county. And, he restated, how puzzled he is by Gary's stance.
"This was his baby," Waldrip said.
For his part, Gary said the issue of pay for jailers is just part of his objection to the current plan.
He said he is also concerned about the likelihood that lower-paid jailers hired by the private operators would be as qualified to keep inmates in the jail, keep peace in the jail and maintain a safe environment in the Justice Center.
Waldrip said Gary hasn't had any problem with jailers from a private company working in his jail for the several years that he has used contract jailers.
If the county is unable to agree on a deal with Southwestern, Waldrip said, the need to move county inmates to the jail in Bonham wouldn't have to be a permanent solution.
"The sheriff goes out of office in three years and we could just tread water until then," Waldrip said. Asked about his rumored intention to seek the office Gary now holds, Waldrip paused for a beat and then said he thinks the idea of a private jail looks right for the county from both a commissioner's and a sheriff's point of view.
Commissioner David Whitlock also said he doesn't understand Gary's change of heart.
"We were trying to keep the current rate of pay for his people," Whitlock said adding that it was his understanding that all of Gary's jailers would be hired on by the private jail at their current rate of pay and benefits.
"But now he is changing horses. The position he has put us in right now, the easiest solution is just to send them to Bonham," Whitlock said.
He acknowledged that such a solution would likely result in a loss of jobs for part of the staff of current jailers.
"That is not a good thing to say (politically speaking) but it is the dang-blame truth," Whitlock said. When asked if he understands why people would be upset at the prospect of losing their jobs, Whitlock said he does understand. "But Grayson County is a business and a big business and we are having to pay for that business."
Whitlock said he is on record as declaring that the Texas Commission on Jail Standards is behind most of the problem. He contends that if the county were allowed to run the jail as it sees fit rather than having to keep up with rules set by TCJS, overcrowding might not be an issue.
Like Short, Whitlock said he is not opposed to looking at remodeling or adding on to the jail downtown, but he stopped looking at that possibility because of the things Gary said about it.
"He kept bringing us people who said it wasn't worth fixing," Whitlock added.
Short was the only commissioner to say he has crunched some preliminary numbers to try to figure out what it would cost, in today's market, to build in downtown. He said the price the county has been quoted to build a 721-bed jail is right at $35 million (not in downtown.) Divided out that comes to between $40,000 and $45,000 per bed. He said commissioners could use that figure to come up with the cost to build on downtown. However, Short added, the cost of land would have to be included in a total price.
Waldrip said there is more than one type of price for building downtown. One, he said, is financial and the other is a bit harder to quantify.
"I will tell you flat out 100 percent I will not participate in taking someone's home away from them to build a jail," Waldrip said.
Commissioner Jackie Crisp said he doesn't favor laying anyone off if the court decides to use the Fannin County private jail option, but he said that probably won't be necessary.
"The Sheriff said he has about 20 people who have been here less than a year and that he has a high turnover rate," Crisp said. He said the county could just not replace people when they leave and reach the desired number of jailers through attrition.
Crisp said if Gary does prevent a deal with Southwestern, the option of moving the overflow to the private jail is a good one because of the numbers.
"It costs us $49.35 to keep an inmate and they only want $45 a day," he said.
That would allow the county to save a little money, "while we look for a workable solution." That solution might be to add on to the current jail or build a new one at a later date. Either way, Crisp was quick to point out that he doesn't want to oppose Gary. "It is his jail and we will work with him, if he is reasonable. We just need to all get on the same page."
Herald Democrat Assistant City Editor Kathy Williams contributed to this report.
Comments ... 13 found!
Hard Choices for Jail : 7/14/2009
I appreciate the difficult choices that our commissioners, sheriff, and Judge Bynum are considering at this time. Sometimes what is best for the whole isn't always good news for a few. I attended the meeting on Mon. and thought the issues presented by the commissioners and Judge Bynum had been well thought through and the decision made to privatize was based on much research. Thank you for your service. I look forward to seeing this project brought to the county.
sk
Jail issue : 7/14/2009
I attended today's court session. I was totally disgusted by the majority of those in attendance. To think it was a respresentation of the majority would mean our unemployment rate in Grayson county is around 90%. I was fortunate to have the opportunity to attend during the middle of my work day. No county employee is going to lose their job, and will get same wage and benefit package. Court has a proposal that will allow county to acquire a new facility without raising our taxes. Current employees will have opportunity to oversee inmates so if argument that contract employees are not competent then current employees are either not competent or won't perform. City of Sherman is worried about potential losses to services they receive to their police department but haven't presented offer to retain or offset cost. Sherman Mayor asked today for cooperation - seemed a little late to the party but ... The city needs to determine what their cost would be/what loss could be and bring offer to table to keep facility downtown. Why wouldn't we want others to offset our cost for a new facility by building the solution the expert opinions we have paid for say is needed for the long haul? Why would the Sheriff's department not want a new facility when they have been pushing for one and their expert recommends this solution? Why do we think folks will pay additional taxes when all school increases failed. Is micro-managing by demanding populace vote for something that is funded by a tax increase and will cost us both time and a lot of dollars really the answer?
Concerned Tax Payor
Location? : 7/12/2009
What is wrong with placing a new jail on the old Sher-Den Mall site. It has hwy access and it would be large enough for a large building, or even Perrin Field the county owns the land that seems to be going to waste. We surely haven't taken very good care of the old buildings there? What are county officals scared of letting the tax payers vote on this issue?
screenman
Conflict of Interest : 7/12/2009
It seems like there would be a conflict of interest in regard to the GC Commissioners making such a large commitment to Fannin County to pay to farm Grayson County inmates out to them. GC Commissioner Whitlock is the brother of Commissioner Gary Whitlock in Fannin County. It will sure make him look good if his brother and the rest of the Grayson County Commissioners Court send our inmates to them to make good Fannin County's financial obligations.
Questions Motivations
Cost to the True Owner of the Fannin County Jail : 7/11/2009
The New Fannin County jail is owned by the county through a Public Facility Corporation - CEC just runs the jail for a fee of $35 per inmate per day. If the jail goes broke the Public Facility corporation goes under. Fannin MUST charge Grayson at least $66.50 a day per inmate so that they can meet their bond payments and the payments to CEC to run the jail. Mr. Crisp was likely told $45 a day because that is what Fannin county pays to put in their own inmates and based on the feasibility study done when they started this process we must have $67.61 from everyone else to pay the expenses and keep the jail from going default on its bonds. This figure is located on page 297 of the documents Fannin County signed to create the jail. As our commissioner's cannot read and refused to read what they agreed to please send us all your inmates at $45 dollars a day and we can bankrupt our Public Facility Corporation to the tune of owing $2 million dollars a year to the jail operator. Dale McQueen
Dale McQueen
To jail comments : 7/10/2009
This is the second part to a two part article the first part is at http://www.heralddemocrat.com/hd/News/Grayson-County-Jail I think you will find your missing comments you are referring to.
just trying to be helpful
Jail Comments : 7/10/2009
What happened to all the comments that were in yesterday's section on this subject???? Let the people be HEARD and let the people VOTE.
Jail Comments
New Jail : 7/10/2009
If I understand correctly the idea was to look at the possibility of a private jail to see if it was best for Grayson County. It now appears that maybe a private jail is not the answer. I think there should be a "cooling off period" and do nothing for now. It is my understanding that some key city and county officials want to keep the jail downtown and do what it takes to make the jail meet standards. It won't hurt to put a decision off for 3 or 4 months to study a plan that has been aound for several years. I say talk to whoever came up with that plan and see if it will work today. It seems that Judge Bynum and Commissioner Waldrip are the most outspoken. They should show some leadership and put any decision off for awhile.
Citizen for Staying in Current Jail
Be Informed of the Risk : 7/9/2009
Read about the financial risk of private prison schemes: http://www.justicestrategies.org/node/102
Take No Risk
Arrogant With Power : 7/9/2009
Bynum and Waldrip are so self absorbed with their political power that they are willing to risk taking on the unknowns in future cost for the taxpayers and the loss of control of the jail to the point they will steam roll the Sheriff on this issue. Throw the bums out of office when they come up for re-election or when they seek another political office.
Had enough
Grayson County Jail : 7/9/2009
Judge Bynum is bluffing. He can't just shut down the jail and expect other counties to accept our inmates -they have their own people to contend with. They may be able to take some, but not all. I am tired of this commissioners court completely disregarding the wishes of the taxpayers and public safety. I have not seen any public support for the private jail. No one wants to see people profit from incarcerating people and most intelligent people prefer the jail be controlled by law enforcement, not a bunch of under-paid incompetents. You want to gander at what is in store for us?? Think back just a short time ago to when Bryan County Jail was being broke out of on a weekly basis. That is a prime example of recent privatization. Waldrip is wrong - privatization will place public safety at risk. I can assure you, I VOTE. I will not support Drue Bynum a second time and if my commissioner goes along with this crap, I will not vote for him either. I will activly campaign and vote for anybody with the beans to challenge them!!
Grayson Co. Taxpayer and Voter
Lied to Again : 7/8/2009
What residents would be displaced if the jail is expanded? Looks like to me just bailbond busineses would be affected. They would get fair market value, or more, and go across the street. When the downtown jail was built, everyone was assured it could be added on to with no problem. Now we are finding out that we are going to still have a staff of jailers, taking federal prisoners downtown and another jail (private) that turns out will cost more than we are spending now. What kind of logic is that? Mr. Waldrip, don't shine your badge just yet, I for one will donate all the time and money I can to keep you out of that job.
Send them to Fannin
Remember the last Sheriff? : 7/8/2009
I do hope the current Sheriff keeps in mind that his predecessor lost his job the next election following the last jail expansion. It is very difficult to find much support among Grayson County residents when their tax money is being spent to house people who break the law and wish to do us harm. Sorry about the jailers, but Sheriff Gary, keep in mind, thousands of folks in the private sector are being laid off every day. In many cases because their employeers are being forced to cut back in order to pay the taxes they are being burdened with to support the public sector.
Long Time Grayson County Citizen
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